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Wanna SCORE PRIMO TICKETS Be in "The Best Seats in the House +" How to Score Tickets – Primo – Front Row – Pits – VIP Packages “ The Best Seats in the House “ On the Cheap – Face $$ Value or Less Turn a Profit to Purchase Tickets for SEEING & ADDING ON MORE SHOWS I REPEAT – This is ONLY for The Best Seats in the House – Which is Approx Less than 10 % of the seating in any venue. See Diagram. Inside the RED ZONE  BE WARNED – Once You see a show from the Best Seats in the House . . . it is very hard to go back to the rest of a venue. You will most likely get spoiled. MY BACKGROUND – I have been “shaking & moving” tickets before scalping was even an industry or four letter word. The 1970’s. I introduced a friend to what I was doing and he now created / operates one of the Largest Ticket brokerage Outfits in the USA and has made a very handsome living. Lives very close to Keith. I was part of the Ticketmaster Lawsuit in the 1990’s. Made 1000’s of $$ in order to buy more “best seats in the House” tickets. Went to 5 outta the 6 MSG 1975 shows and did not cost me a dime. Unheard of at the time to do more than 1 show for anyone. Sat in seat A1A for Both Rolling Stones Shows by purchasing tickets March 28 & 29 1999 at Hartford CT my home state. Front Row - MSG Multiple X's ( The Creme de la Creme of Concert Seating ). The Only one with an Extra set of Roseland Ballroom Tickets ( the Hardest NYC Stones ticket get until Racket Club 2024). Seen the Stones more times in NY City Area & Tough Ticket Market Place than anyone else and in the Best Seats ! I have also paid 6x’s 5x’s 4x’s 3x’s & Double Face $$ Value for shows that I really wanted to see. I will post Honestly my losses, when I over paid and the reasons for them also. I HAVE POSTED THIS BEFORE – Multiple Times - WAY BACK in the DAY and someone always tries to claim they have built a better mouse trap or a one-off success rules everyday. So I stopped posting or helping others out because some nubee would always toss a two cent wrench in it and it made these tried and true methods Difficult and cumbersome to get across. Anyway, all of this is truer today then it ever was with Ticketmaster going into the “Scalping” industry. PLUS There are OVER 70+ HELPFUL HINTS Mentioned Herein That Hopefully Can get ya the Special Seats that ya want at the Special Price that ya want. ITS NOT EASY – IF IT WAS . . . THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT . . . BUT ITS NOT HARD EITHER 2.) Sign up for ALL Pre Sales. Fan Club – Artist – Venue – Local Sports Teams that plays there (Often Neglected) – Radio – Sponsors & Advertisers– and Ticketmaster AXS LiveNation. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION to when Passwords will be distributed and Follow the Instructions. Phone Apps can be different than Computer Website access. As with the recent AARP codes you could use BOTH phone app and internet web site access. THAT Was in the INSTRUCTIONS that most fans missed. 3.) HOMEWORK: Know which shows will be the toughest highest demand – highest $$ and the ones you want. As a General Rule New York will be # 1, then any special performances. Smaller Venue than usual, Opening & Closing nights. Weekends. Holidays. Have Not played in the area recently. RANK Them . . . as that is how you will need to proceed . . . in that order. Unless you have a partner that can help from another location. Then split the shows up. Working Together. Staying in order. Or BOTH working on your # 1 selection until successful. Then move onto show or seats # 2 and so on and so on. 4.) SIGN IN EARLY on Ticketmaster, According to their guidelines. 5.) Research Ticket Broker sites for new rules insights to follow. Latest Examples: You will not be able to have multiple windows open at the same time for Ticketmaster. If you move too fast Ticketmaster will consider you a bot. 6.) Use Create Partnerships or Teams of Family Members Friends and Fans. From different accounts, Different Computers, Different Cells and locations. 7.) Have a Larger or LARGER Bankroll of $$ readily available to use. Credit card is Valid and Limits are approved in advance. IMPORTANT 8.) Know if second or additional shows will be added. Monitor that closely as they will go on sale without any notice. 9.) All these guidelines included herein are All recommended by the top ticket broker and info sites. Tickerbrokerbuddys.com - Moms in the Know. Broker-Buds.com and more Key Ticket Advice Experts.. • You need to try to purchase in ALL Pre Sales and follow closely during the pre Sales ! Got yer Tickets in the Pre Sales - Perfection PLus & Props to You. Lets break that down if you dont. If you see that presales have gone quickly. Sold out right away. More Pre sales offerings than the usual two ( Ticketmaster & Tour Sponsor ). You now know regular sales will go up in demand and in price. All sales will be tougher and brokers will be hot for them in the general sale & re Selling sites. Brokers use a Software for this. Even though you do not, simple common sense will prevail. If Tickets went fast. Friends and Fans had a hard time getting the seats they wanted. Ask Around. Your job just got that much tougher and a bit more expensive. • In todays world Everyone and Anyone can be a ticket broker. It is another side hustle profession like Uber drivers and Dog Walkers. They are a dime a dozen. Buy some software and away you go. These part-time Scalpers generally know or focus & pay close attention to their local hometown or nearest to them big city markets ONLY. Your job is that much tougher and you need to pay attention here to those “local” ticket brokers in those markets, not just StubHub, SeatGeek, VividSeats, ViaGoGo. Call them up . . . find out what the going rate is for your tickets / seats of choice and not the "Affiliate" Online Scalper ones that kick you to a Seating chart very similar to StubHub where they make a small commission off of directing you to that site. Know the Difference. We are talking the local ones that have a physical office or home office, nearby, that you can pick up the phone and talk to the owner. • Ticketmaster uses an always updating & modifiying software. We all know about dynamic pricing – Official Platinum (their way of scalping getting the most $$ out of sales). But they update their software ALL the TIME. Follow the Internet for the latest explanation on what their latest updates do, provides and what may cause for you to get Flagged or cause some issues new & old. Why you may get considered a bot and not allowed to purchase at this point. For Example having more than one window open to Ticketmaster will get you flagged. Ticketmaster even mentions that on their website now and its common knowledge. One they do not mention is that if you move too fast thru the queue and sales process they may also flag you as a bot. Thats Not common knowledge and it's 2 years old to insider ticket buyers! Bet ya did not know that one. Anyway if ya did not know that, there are probably more helpful hints in this article for you . . . PLUS What worked Last week on Ticketmaster may not work This Week - Last Month - the Last Tour - or your Last Purchase is foolish to assume it will be the same. We all go through App updates daily. Expect that from Ticketmaster, who is not your friend – they are out to make as much $$ as possible and closing any loophole, making an extra hand full of dimes off of anything that would be to a fan's advantage, making your job harder and more expensive with EVERY APP UPDATE. • What works in Europe does not work in the USA. Assume What works in Charlotte will not work in Chicago, NY or Boston. Each market has there own individuality or popularity of Supply and Demand guidelines. Know your market & Venues. New York MSG vs Met Life to Vegas the Sphere vs MGM Arena & Allegiant totally different. NOTE: Casinos / Concierage' usually get a private allotment in Vegas. • Fans sometimes only sell to other fans. Monitoring those fan sites can be helpful. I myself have "given away" YES "Given Away" VIP packages to the Stones in Nashville a $4k value, Pit tickets in NY Vegas Philly & other hot markets Concerts OFTEN to fans Only. But I am definetly not the norm . . . As most Fans are the looking for that bargain (even some con-jobbers claiming they are poor) instead of the "its better to give then recieve" got an extra ticket fan. But you may meet some honorable fans out there willing to help and we want to be thorough and we want to cover all our bases to see you get evry opportunity to get the best tickets to the show you want to go see. • Some tickets "may" get released in drops or later. NOT by Ticketmaster. But by the sponsors, venue and / or other 3rd parties involved . . . NOT in any significant or grandiose number and or any reason for you to hold back and wait on. Rarely, if ever will the primo seats go out this way, those get Used up ASAP ! Those if any that are held back . . . get to the public sometimes as a pause . . . to wait n see what the dollar & demand is for the primo seats . . . to THEN hold back to get Higher pricing, increase pricing levels for the rest & BULK of the venue and the BULK of the seats behind those primos we are shooting for . . . This speculating & “maybe” held back seating that can then and will increase the TOTAL $$ Volume Tickets Sales for the promoter . . . with increasing the prices on the 90% of Seats, based on the initial 10% sales and demand of "Mainly" our primo seats . . . Ticket brokers gobble those up anyway using their software !!! I REPEAT Ticket Broker Software pings them instantly on all newly added seats . . . So Never count on that as a way to get great seats . . . Analytics / Surge Pricing has practically replaced that "Old School" thinking & form of speculation Anyway . . . So, Contrary to a popular "Mis" belief on the Internet this is not a rule, that tickets are held back BY TICKETMASTER . . . and or it happens very rarely or it may never ever happen again as technology & data Mining take over . . . its generally tickets that are UN-Used that Get released later . . . SO . . . if you have a very popular show, chances are ALL Primo seats are GONE / will get Used / Bought and then Scalped / or Re-Sold at a Premium out of the Starting Gate FROM THE Pre Sales & THE General Sales . . . In almost all cases you can assume that ALL Tickets go on sale right at the presale and the general public sale right outta the starting blocks and unless you are a sophisticated software using ticket broker, waiting on this old wifes tale is a long shot or no shot at all for the rest of us to score that 1 or 2 exception to the rule tickets. • For the Record: Here is the Actual Legal Wording: TICKETMASTER acts as the agent to those who provide events, (the “Event Organizer”) such as artists, venues, teams, fan clubs, promoters, and leagues. Ticketmaster sells tickets on behalf of the “Event Organizers” though, in some rare instances, we may own a small number of tickets as part of our services contract with the Event Organizer. NOTE: RARE INSTANCES. • A NEW 2023 Ticketmaster Curve ball is they added an Early Entry Premium ticket to make $$ off of the early arrivals sleep on the sidewalk people. Adding a wrinkle to GA or PIT Tickets. Plus Preferred Aisle Seating. Those will be more difficult to obtain and worth a lot more than regular or regular GA. I am an associate to a LiveNation executive who has on his resume ALL the extra ways he created for promoters & venues to market and make more $ on pretty much off of the same ol traditional seats and sections in venues like The Pit Concept. • Try to NOT Listen to Others or get swayed by them. Especially those One-Hit-Wonders Fan Club Banterings. It is Human nature to only talk about yer wins, post only yer wins. No different then in the Stock Market & Gambling . . . No one posts, brags or steps up about their loses . . . Resist the I waited to the last second and got a bargain barker. WAIT – WAIT more tickets will be available on the "less than face value" later . . . the “talk is cheap” person. For every win posted you will see or hear about, they’re likely 10+ others that paid more for the tickets they wanted . . . 10+ others that could not get the tickets they wanted at all . . . 10+ others that paid much more for tickets that was probably not their first available choice or best choice . . . AND 10+ others that DID NOT EVEN GO TO THE SHOW or even bought tickets due to budget restrictions or it ended up being cost prohibitive AND GETS NEVER MENTIONED or PUBLICIZED. I just listed four additional ticket buying public scenarios that offset the last minute bargain shopper small successers. There is no need to put yourself in a 1 outta 5 chance situation when you do not have to be. Listening to individuals that do not do this for a living or a hard core ticket buying expert is a Fools Gold. As We are dealing w/ 24 Karat gold Seats here Only. Getting outside advice on Outside / the Outer rim of primo seats you will still need to do your due dilgence and triple check that info against all the other pieces of information included herein . . . AND much info from others is probably Not Applicable for the Killer Best Seats in the house. What we are focusing on here. Again no one brags about over paying which is the major majority of sales in the primo area at concerts. You will never hear from them (the I Payed more for my ticket People) or about them other unlucky I "well" overpaid for my ticket buyers. • Again a fan site can be very helpful in and when fans sell tickets to fans. Although a fan site should not be your first choice / one stop / only stop or the belief that they have the “hot off the presses” inside instant information for tickets. They do come in handy for when pre sales & general sales are occuring. But your 1st and probably 2nd choice should be if you are looking for tickets to for example: Santa Clara – Atlanta or Denver per se . . is to go establish a relationship with a local ticket brokers (2) in those markets. They would have all the software to monitor tickets on TM as well as all the Secondary Re Sellers . . . These LOCAL Ticket Brokers would know instantly on and if what you are looking for pops up . . . . as per a fan site you would most likely be the proverbial day late / hour late / minute late dollar short category. PLUS they would have local contacts with local ticket purchasers example : Local Companies advertisers teams etc, that have season tickets or purchase & sell often and they share ticket information amongst themselves ( the tickets that NEVER make it out to the public or to web sites ). • Remember your Valuable TIME is Valuable $$ Money $$ also. There is no need to be this nonsensical person that spends hours upon hours monitoring ticket prices just to potentially save a few dollars and can now brag how they got Face Value tickets for $30 less than face value at the end, but in essence spent $1000’s of dollars in wasted time and money. Ticket brokers know about these jokers also . . . the “penny wise dollar foolish” ones that will purchase tickets just below face and this helps to make sure the ticket re-sellers will never take a beating on ticket re-selling, they can hold out for maximum profit, knowing these people are their backstop. Nor should or Will you take a beating on buying primo tickets knowing these buyers are out there. • And Money is Money. Expect Tickets to go up 10-20%, But expect Ticketmaster fees to go up exponentially. Last look was a 200% increase on Ticketmaster fees between last two Stones Tours. The Re-Seller sites 20-40% extra in fees. I recently saw $800.00 of TM fees for 2 Houston Stones 2024 basic pit tickets AND $500.00 of taxes added on. So waiting on a TM RE-Seller bargain or price drop can be negated by excessive Ticketmaster fees. I dont follow all the individual state RE-Selling Laws & Statutes. But you should at least Google your Home States Ticket Re-Selling Scalping Laws are in Line with Reasonable Standards. More the reason to get in the door quickly when purchasing our high demand primo seat tickets. • At this point in time you know almost all you need to know on how to score the best seats in the house. On occasions some last minute tickets are added after stage configuration, those rarely if ever exist anymore with technology improvements for Primo seats which is what we are talking about here. Limited Restricted view Yes. Primo No * See Addendum. • Advanced technology. You should have a static IP address for your computer. Check with your Internet provider. One that ticketmaster picks up as a singular location. Singular person. Singular business. If you are going for multiple shows on tour this is strongly recommended, otherwise the teams and partners from different locations / different computers / different internet accounts strategy should be used. This will not prevent you from purchasing, just makes it a bit harder for multiple purchases, or if you have to retry and retry again. • Also Find Out - Make notes on the need to figure out and note what the allotment of tickets are to purchase. If 8 tickets allowed many top seats will go quicker and to brokers. If two or four max then more opportunities for the regular folks to slide in and purchase the tickets they want. • Start with ALL Pre Sales make sure you have times correct and if E.S.T or C.S.T. or P.S.T. Upper Case Lower case Passwords for ALL Pre Sales. NOTE: Not all passwords work for every marketplace. NY AARP presale password is not the same as the LA AARP presale password. Ask around. Call friends. BEFORE you start. • When You are in the queue, and have followed all the rules above . . . it is now yer turn to buy. GO FOR & BUY The Best tickets ASAP as many as allowed. Even if they are not precisely what you want. Once they are in your buy Window Purchase them. You will always be able to re-sell for a profit later on. Remember we mentioned to have a solid bankroll of cash available. Chances are slim or none that you will be able to go back and get those primo seats. Don’t throw money out the window. • If at first ya don’t succeed. Try Try and Try again. RIGHT AWAY do NOT WAIT. With technology nuances & glitches, Special credit card authorizations and Limits. Whats in someones elses queue to purchase may become available when there time is up, due to their issues. • KEEP Trying on Day 1. Do NOT Give up. That is the most important day to purchase. If worn out come back later in the day. Again Someone else’s ticket purchasing issues may become available hours later. I keep trying to 12:01 AM to 1:00 & 2:00 AM. “Maybe” the re release is the next day, has been known to happen just after midnight. • It is yer call on or if you want to purchase Official Platinum tickets. I generally do for up to 10-20% of Face Value. My time is $$ and I know if Ticketmaster is marking them up then the Re Sell will be the same at a higher mark $$ up. So nothing ventured, nothing gained. • GOT the Tickets ya wanted at Face $ Value or slightly marked up GREAT. Congratulations. See ya at the Show or More Shows. • Did not get the tickets ya wanted in the PreSales. No worries ya Still have the General Sales. • GOT High $$ Value tickets. Or a Block of them 2-4-6-8. Now we are Talking ! Talking about a potential Goldmine Windfall for you. Generally we are looking at a 1 ½ to 2 to possibly 3 to 4 even 5 x’s the profitability. You can either sell those – sell some and put the excess money towards your tickets or use to purchase more tickets or even Better seats. You have all kinda options. All Excellent options. All in your favor. • For Example: in 2024 I have 10 “Start me Up” Rolling Stones Pit packages. Purchased at Face $$ Value of $ 799.00. Not really interested in using 2 at this time, that are selling / offered on the re-seller markets for $2500 to $ 4000.00 if you can find them at all. Super Super Rare. My options are I can sell ALL of my Packages for approximately $30k, maybe more but lets not get greedy. Buy 10 Regular Pits for $1k x’s 10 = $10k + $8k original purchase costs and Net $12k to pay for Travel or better yet More Stones Show Tickets. Now isn’t that a whole lot better than hunkered down by a computer, 24/7 home & office . . . boss is probably pisssed off for the lack of production coming from you in the 3 months waiting for a Face Value ticket to go below face Value . . . We are simply putting our Time & Money here to work for us. • Now it all does not go this High-$$ smooth, as I may make the largest ticket score in my career here or if you want to be a little more conservative. Lets say you bought 8 (maximum purchase) Pit tickets at Face Value. Those are now going for a $300 - $500 mark up. Sell 6 for approx. $2500 in profit. Keep 2. Go to the show. You will end up having $1500 to do what you ever want to do with it. The point is . . . you sell your excess tickets for what the re-seller market rate is and use that to pay for your tickets and hopefully put some party $$ in your pockets or go see more shows. • This has been the way for over 50 years on how to see more, shows acts. Like I said I used to help inform some friends, but the “penny wise dollar foolish” people that sit by the computer for hours AND HOURS and waste costly time to save very little always got in the way. AND I am NOT The # 1 NY (Hardest Most Expensive Tickets to Get) Rolling Stones Concert Go-Er by far with out this reason, as I am not a Fortunate Son. I work for a living like most do and work to pay for my tickets just like most of us regular folks . . . not a chance I coulda afforded as an outta work teenager going to 5 shows outta the 6 at MSG in 1975 when 2 were unheard of cost prohibitive, even for high rollers. • You do have to put some time in. But it’s minutes, maybe a few hours of total time, that is well worth it. And Sorry to Say, you can always get skunked by Ticketmaster. Zero Guarantees there. • Have I been burned doing this? NOT Really. Sometimes I have had to put in more time and have broken even. Sold some tickets for small losses, even given away for FREE Pit tickets & VIP packages BUT the joke is always on the person that was sold that cheapee to, as many more were sold for a profit resulting in a Nice Net profit in a lot less the time that those others spent hunting down a piddly small-money bargain(s) and they are your safety net or back stop for any real $$ losses . . . PLUS I always went to the show in some of the best seats in the house. That is the MAIN Goal HERE. So I consider that when factoring it all into the plusses & minuses. Like the Clint Eastwood movie states PURCHASE the Tickets even if for “a Few Dollars More” out of the Gate. PERIOD. • FYI Ticketbrokers are now cutting arrangement deals with a Sponsors. Example VividSeats with the NY Post. VividSeats with ESPN. VividSeats with Hopper (a travel booking app). VividSeats with The Cleveland Browns. You will not find FaceValue tickets here. But you may get lucky and find some savings over TicketMaster Official Platinum - Dynamic Pricing and the Re-Seller sites. Sign up for them. • My losses all stem from waiting till the last second, After getting Shut Out on Ticketmaster Pre-Sales & General Sales. AND I still went to the shows I wanted to go see and paid that premium. BUT I offset these losses against my profitable re seller sales. • I purchased Face Value a full block of 8 front row MSG. I ONLY Needed 2 to see the Stones in the 1990’s. Gave 6 to my scalper friends, who in turn sold them for $2750.00 each. We split the net profit which netted me about $7k. I took the money and went to see The Stones play in Hawaii. The twist to all this was that when we got to the show, we were not in Row 1, we were actually in row 2. MSG squeezed another row out for its executives after the stage went up. I watched them walk out the chairs myself, just minutes before the opening act. WELL my tickets ended up being in the hands of a World Class Clothing Designer MSG Garden Sponsor and his model friends. Even better by my standards as the models were super hot and were all sitting next to me BUT he was Super pissed, he thought he purchased row 1. He stormed outta the show in mid show. a Major Lawsuit ensued against Ticketmaster MSG and anyone else involved. I was called in on the witness list, but never had to appear as it was settled outta court. BUT the ending was that NO longer could Ticketmaster and MSG Sell tickets claiming front rows and then they could place better seats in front of them making the rows incorrect. No longer did that remotely happen. SO if you think you are gonna get some primo seats as they make extra room after the stage goes in. Think again. They moved those to the back NOT the front since the 1990’s. • Almost ALL of my wins have been purchasing extra tickets at the Opening Bell, selling for a profit and / or offsetting against the cost of my Used Primo ticket(s) or I even purchased more tickets to more shows, or upgraded my tickets to better seats in the house. It has been a very nice ride. Seeing acts play around the world, at a fair price or hopefully at a bargain 😊 and at NO Cost at All. Plus you can see from the 1970’s to 1990’s to even today which maybe my hughest score to date. The Program and this Insight herein works ! Of course with some minor updating & the technology updates that you have to stay abreast of. • Someone is always going to say that this did not apply and that some venues or acts did things differently one year or for one show. This deals with The Rules not that once in a Blue Moon or lifetime The Exception(s) or glitches. • TEASER Tickets ! Be Aware of them. Brokers put out a couple of tickets from time to time. Just a few tickets to see what the market will bare $$ or where the Bottom or Floor is $$ wise or to just raise some cash. Do NOT Confuse this with some ticket dump of extra tickets or that prices have dropped. They are Brokers spectulating on Bottom $$ / Demand what the lowest price is at the moment and they are all still holding out for the ceiling $$ TOP Dollar. If those Tickets go instantly, and they generally do, your next batch and future tickets will be higher priced. • There is also a new entrant to the TicketGame called TickPicks that claims No or Low Fees. They are or can be a Serious Ticket Teaser Play. NOTE 1: They add on extra Taxes not extra fees. NOTE 2: You "may" have to buy All 8 or 4 tickets to get that pricing. NOTE 3: Tickets can be delivered at the last second in person. Very problematic if you have other things to do or ya miss out. FINALLY MOST IMPORTANT NOTE: They do NOT have to sell at that price. They have 48 hours to RESCIND the deal. So very often it is used to guage the $$ marketplace. We are Not calling it a scheme. Just be Fore Warned on the pit falls and pricing fine print ! • Applying these insider rules to Canada, Europe Australia is recommended only for the super savvy, as those markets do not have the mark ups for ticket re-sellers markets and those markets have a higher demand and tolerance for GA Standing Tickets. • As you will see in the Venue diagram, I added 3 bubbles to the left right and center. The center only applies if a walk out center stage is used. The left & right bubbles can harness some good re seller pricing but Often takes in more “haggling” over pricing. Be cautious when purchasing in those 3 areas. • And I repeat this is ONLY for the best seats in the house and ya need to know your acts, venues, city, specific supply and demands. Plus there has been some glitches in Ticket Sales, over the years, while everything here can be Subject to Some Change. All in All the upside easily out weighs the downside. Make this a Labor of Love as it is The Rolling Stones and/or a Cant Miss Show . . . PLUS if just one of the 70+ Helpful Hints here works out for ya. Great. As it's even more Fun at a Show, Getting the Seats ya want at a fair price or Knowing the Scalpers Paid you to sit in "The Best Seats in the House" instead of you paying them more than you should LOL In Closing your probably gonna miss Some Killer Stones Fan Parties if ya Dont have tickets to the show. OH NO :( Read About Pre & Post Concert Party Access Here and All About the Top Rolling Stones Fan Partys. All the best to you in your “Best Seats in the House” Ticket Hunting It's a Jungle . . . Out There. |
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